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Are you yearning for the warmth, friendliness, and cheer of a good local pub? Drop by "Four Guys Walk Into a Bar..." and sit in on the conversation. Whether it's serious or silly, you'll walk away satisfied.

How It All Began
One day, a couple of us were talking about our favorite radio programs and podcasts and why we like them. We realized that we're really drawn to the ones that make us laugh (do we listen to Car Talk for advice on cars? We do not). And we realized that we're lucky enough to have a group of friends who make us laugh like that. So we thought, We should talk with those guys more often. And maybe, we thought, other people would enjoy those conversations as much as we do. So we turned them into a podcast.

Come Join Us!
Feel free to download the episodes below either directly or through the iTunes store, or if you'd just like a few samples/promos, check out our MySpace page.



Phoboslab.org—ztype <http://phoboslab.org/ztype/> ... manual typewriters ... ICANN has cheeseburger ... we're improving your skype experience ... turning to iTunes U ... geotag magic ... we're monkey brain ... password insecurity ... booblesnorp ... too sneaky ... onepassword ... bricking my computer ... phished ... 2 groups out to get you ... bored kids, the mob ... length is what you really need ... no Don Corleone ... south of the vest ... world's tallest extrovert ... sodium pentothal ... t-shirt warning ... This American Life ... real apathy ... maybe I'm the big dog ... Supernatural ... The Wire ... Dexter ... re-pick: It's Your Ship & Surface Detail ... weekly pick: onepassword ... airplane Internet ... making Apple friends ... getting meta on your ass ... auxiliary class materials ... weekly pick: Michael Crichton, "The Secret of Santa Vittoria" ... anti-pick: United Premier ... weekly pick: WinningProgressive.org ... weekly pick: minecraft ... plants v. zombies

Direct download: 255__ICANN.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:00am EDT

Hello, Dave ... Dad's driving ... special guest ... Cytron Masters ... www.myabandonware.com—cytron-masters-l <http://www.myabandonware.com/game/cytron-masters-l> ... wolfenstein 3D ... weekly pick:  Plants vs. Zombies ... steam ... iPad mini ... looking like an idiot in public ... palladog ... Black Ops ... verisimilitude bothers me ... Doom ... reddit: GumNut the Koala ... you will bleed ... do not F#@* with Koalas ... wedding at Bear's house ... semi-potluck ... big reception later ... man of honor ... weekly pick: Move the Box ... cover orange ... that's me:  Hate Hate Hate ... weekly pick: google fusion tables

Direct download: 254__Ringing.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:00am EDT

International Slow Food Congress ... notes from a battleground state ... damn Italian communists ... authorized use of label ... into the waiting truck ... combal.zero ... dining in a castle ... dastardly humor ... eating without smelling ... steak tartar with tomato confit ... slow service group ... really amused bouche ... meetin' the chef ... network of chefs ... wonderful Vernazza ... paying for the view with steps ... totally worth it ... not on the face of the earth ... cranking out pasta ... pasta resistant ... you know what I miss about space? ... good food; no atmosphere ... kicking around time in Italy ... raviolono with white truffle ... crying over the pasta ... Milan Duomo ... Duomo-shaped hole ... weekly pick: magic apple peeler ... weekly pick: Nate Silver, "The Signal and the Noise" ... he's ahead in Ohio ... reservoir of anger ... angry at the weather man ... Lost at Sea ... the investigative satirist ... weekly pick: Myst book ... www.riumplus.com—mystbook <http://www.riumplus.com/mystbook/> ... weekly pick: Doris Burn, "Andrew Henry's Meadow" ... geohashing

Direct download: 253__Good_Food.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:48pm EDT

muttered slur … darn cuckoo birds … cowbird clock … Cabin in the Woods … meta scary movie … the 80 percent mark … good and scary movie … what part of the world and for how long … with an edge … Spiderman again?!? … the Sparrow … Ready Player One ... found a lich role for you … the Help … expectations when watching … the pictures move! … weekly pick: Once … delectable Rumplestiltskin … weekly pick: Ian M. Banks, “Surface Detail” … switching Dr. Who loyalties … the value of storytelling … weekly pick: “Get Out of My Life…” … for fish by fish … Trump: uh, whoops … http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/09/mysterious-underwater-crop-circle-art-discovered-off-the-coast-of-japan/ … third time through Lemony Snicket … met expectations

Direct download: 252._Cowbird_Clock.mp3
Category:podcasts -- posted at: 12:33am EDT

Lighting up your living room … mostly awake … jinx you owe me a soda … commercializing the pledge of allegiance … for the Republicans for which they scam … coke Santa … every word was made … vignette, I guess … a congress of snakes … www.buzzfeed.com—54-more-bizarre-names-for-groups-of-animals <http://www.buzzfeed.com/fjelstud/54-more-bizarre-names-for-groups-of-animals> … an implausibility of gnus … ottomine … ursine rant … what’s that about, assh*le … a giggle of girls … a scowl of teenagers … nonplussed … fazed to the max … ruffled fatally … people in glass houses … www.cracked.com—article_15664_9-words-that-dont-mean-what-you-think.html <http://www.cracked.com/article_15664_9-words-that-dont-mean-what-you-think.html> … dickery … Athena and Minerva … no room for a brain … are you a mouse … feather to owl ratio … eating skunk … weekly pick: reddit.com … efficient mob mentality … weekly pick: spell tower app… add-a-letter-game … build a story … weekly pick: Revolution … hot woman with bow … they’re going to die and break your heart … ossify in its original purpose … weekly pick: Greenbay Packers … embarrassment of football players

Direct download: 251__Ursine_Rant.mp3
Category:podcasts -- posted at: 7:06pm EDT

Mandates for local landlines ... congressional races turning to the democrats ... Carville Rove debate ... caricatures of the right and left ... principled politicians ... tax code and equality of opportunity ... invisible hand works ... vigilance in defending our system ... 7 steps to saving the world ... eliminate human aggression ... half a squirrel is better than none ... weekly pick: gephi open source network analysis program with netviz ... using netviz to analyze your Facebook  ... WWII Resistance data: www.cam.cornell.edu—research.php <http://www.cam.cornell.edu/~gfriend/research.php> ... weekly pick: book Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945 by Max Hastings ... war is bad. really bad. ... find a mine, go to heaven ... weekly pick:  book It's Your Ship: Management Technique from the Best Damn Ship in the Navy by Michael Abrashoff as an example of fine leadership ... fourguysmail@gmail.com

Direct download: 250__Your_Value_System_is_WRONG.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:30am EDT

Video is a fad … expensive pencil reproduction … the man in the box … steampunk Newton … imaginary arms … looking up TPK … no apparent effect … no effect if helmed … dirtfarming … kriegspiel and bughouse … more tactical vs. strategic … grueling bicycling … a good yardstick … 4 x 30 second interval training … a deprovement … stairmaster level one million … the weakest link … punctuated by moments of terror … men in yoghurt ads … truckstop slow food … getting into yoghurt sex … asparagus ice cream … ice cream side dish … heritage turkeys … something against big breasted whites … Precious Little … 2nd prenatal test … The Moth … Sleepwalk With Me … What happened to the Tivo … anti-pick: James Gleick, “The Information” … weekly pick: Direct TV … BBC America … weekly pick: Burn Notice … sliced bread isn’t that great … Christwire … Poe’s law … McGivery homebrew … elotes … weekly pick: Evgney Morozov, “The Net Delusion” … the Internet and the Arab Spring … weekly pick: Lois Bujold, “The Curse of Chalion” … Tales of Alvin Maker

Direct download: 249__TPK.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:41am EDT

4 at once and everything … relive the horror … can she cut my hair? … where’s the undo button … slaves to hair care … you want working gauges? … hats! … all maps, no hats … bottom of the sample … death, not so much … cross-exam your doctor … Dr. Knott’s mistakes … Ready Player One nerdgasm … War Games programmer … 50MT hydrogen bomb … weekly pick: Steven Pinker, Better Angels of our Nature … meeting Jeni! … roundtable … Pinker shortcuts … a lot-of-rain delay … more complicated … why politicians need to lie … stomping on my turf … crapping all over my pick … weekly pick: gigaom.com … weekly pick: pecha kucha … find out about them before their dead … weekly pick: The Artist

Direct download: 248__Dr_Naht_Tisuane.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:07pm EDT

the fix of the craven ... iPhone 5 for birthday ... no pedicures for you ... marshmallow words ... family room undercover ... capable of successfully deceiving you ... flew in from South Dakota ... imbued 911 with everything ... American Hosting Association is mad ... biggest mountain until the Pyrenees ... Bully! ... evil Emil’s limes live ... Crazy Horse’s forehead ... Number Ten Saloon ... picks enjoyed:  Doc ... Games Magazine on planes ... picks enjoyed:  Ready Player One ... weekly pick: Veronica Mars ... the move to red box ... weekly pick: Price & Prejudice and Bride & Prejudice ... Dhoom2 ... The Greatest Movie Ever Made ... crocheted playground: http://playgrounddesigns.blogspot.com/2011/10/playground-crochet-by-toshiko-horiuchi.html ... you’d need 5, maybe 6 ... 220, 221, whatever it takes ... weekly pick: facebook app & native apps in general ... kriegspiel ... how long have you been in check? ... Bug House Chess

Direct download: 247._Five_maybe_six.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:33pm EDT

Skype fun … opening Olympic ceremony … the Queen is a good sport … becoming a music publisher … 4 guys Karaoke … paywalls working … 30 cents in royalties … whoa is me, I get no krupkniks … President’s kick-butt hallway … perhaps he’s not inherently evil … above the political fray? … S.Ct. kicking Congress’ butt … the President + a layer of invisibility … handing it off to the grown-ups … college search … 4 or 5 forevers away … college courses in the summer … worried about yield … Berkeley:  a non-nurturing environment … Harvard is the [our school] of the East … weekly pick: elotes … weekly pick: the Lizzie Bennet Diaries … weekly pick: Ready Player One … weekly pick: NBC Olympics app … weekly pick: Southwestern Quinoa Salad passthebeansplease.blogspot.com—southwestern-quinoa-salad.html <http://passthebeansplease.blogspot.com/2012/04/southwestern-quinoa-salad.html> … seitan wheat gluten … rebels-vs-empire cat tactics

Direct download: 246__No_Krupkniks.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:29pm EDT

Mike's connectivity ... Dave and the Triathalon ... the power of can-do thinking ... Mike and his wife own a business ... home-cooked meals for all! ... cooking and the foodbank ... Kristen's birthday surprise ... Weekly pick: Sherlock ... Weekly pick: RedBox ... Weekly pick: Mr. Wool, the sheep wrestler ... a passive sheep

Direct download: 245__How_Screwed_Am_I.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:31am EDT

2 person voice messages ... going to Berlin ... making policy ... graduation promotion season ... air wrapped as an hp ... weekly pick: Ready Player One ... weekly pick: http://orbis.stanford.edu/# ... ignore the man not in the water ... anti-pick: Tower Heist ... News ... Dream Dinners franchise ... running the numbers ... moms that want part time work ... weekly pick: Portal (again)

Direct download: 244._Running_The_Numbers.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:33am EDT

Darth Kramer ... click and clack retiring ... free online lectures ... education vs. certification ... capable of diligence ... gpa on resume ... who owns the rights ... its creepy ... deep unnamed-able concerns vs. unfamiliar ... my subconscious is a genius ... 65 brains ... conscientious butler ... no I’m the Monkey, I know best ... might be good to eat ... taste as poison detector ... the potato is safe ... no, this one has more sugar ... a country of bitter ... all that is true and good in the food world ... senses 6 through 9 ... staunchly believe something that isn’t true ... weekly pick: Batman: The Dark Night Strikes Again ... meta-ironic ... fishhook vagueness ... all arbitrary statements are false ... labels are critical ... airport concrete ... pink slime is creepy ... red bull awful branding ... Impromptu ... George is a woman ... weekly pick: Nicola Tesla ... The Oatmeal: Tesla vs. Edison ... weekly pick: Snow Crash ... skip-able Stephenson ... people who stop accepting editing ... the bar is really know ... weekly pick: Burning Love ... Dark Knight debate ... disembodied head ... pranking from hiding ... payback ... officially: no pranking ... I will prank you dead

Direct download: 243__Shiny_Shiny.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

They still use windows? ... Dave's mic ... shipped a big project ... celebratory mini triathalon ... progressive dinner via biking ... cocktails at bear's! ... Doral Chenoweth ... I hate to cook cookbook ... warp and woof ... Columbus Star scandal sheet ... UU coming of age rituals ... Hocking Hills - internet free ... pack out your garbage ... old is your age + 10 ... junior diabetes fund and root beer floats ... short face bear ... weekly pick: Joaquin Phoenix in Walk the Line ... weekly pick: samba ... weekly pick: bitters-based cocktail - gunshop fizz ... Bear's Haus

Direct download: 242__Warp_and_Woof.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:37am EDT

in pajamas in Berkeley ... not a chaplain yet ... no swooping ... ripple sobbing ... self-forgiveness ... power shuffle ... confession down, not sin ... power of reconciliation ... teenage emotions ... less often in that space ... when I was a boy ... hunger for new experiences ... gender reassignment surgery ... 2-year gender confusion ... weekly pick: portal ... weekly pick: Great America ... I will end you ... weekly pick: CIA museum ... weekly pick: NSA museum ... surgical operating theater clean ... weekly pick: mac tool, spam sieve

Direct download: 241._No_Swooping.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:18am EDT

No circus music … finals … couch to 5K … a challenged to male-kind … Hubert Keller … memories stay in Vegas … spinning tunes … drow hairstyle … buckaroo banzai award … beard award … old post office … Bandaloop Project … Repeller Today … food truck culture … fast food not cheap food … book on cheap home cooking … pork butt … protein plus protein … weekly pick: Avengers … gripping & funny … capital offense … weekly pick: Neil Gaiman, “American Gods” … quasi pick: Portal … Steam … quasi pick: Action List app … David Allen’s “Getting Things Done” … anxiety over lost ideas … Clear app … weekly pick: Bridesmaids … img.timeinc.net—050912.jpg <http://img.timeinc.net/time/pr/magcovers/050912.jpg> … some pretty creepy sh#@

Direct download: 240__Buckaroo_Bonzai_Award.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:55pm EDT

Another bad skype interface ... other UUs ... cross between Barbie and God ... asking guiltlessly, accepting burdens effortlessly ... they don’t call or write ... Don’t Lifestraw Me Bro ... died swimming laps ... do not know the day or the hour ... favorite ancient civilization ... people of the phoenix ... Persian empire ... longer lived and better designed ... temple of syrinx ... temple of Artemis at Ephesus ... the long answer is also “no” ... the Ishtar Gate ... Rome, I choose you ... Vandals as the common cold ... so what’s left ... stop with the gates ... anti-pick: History of the Peloponnesian War ... export your democracy ... the Melian Dialogs ... Alexander’s last speech ... weekly pick:  Crash Course ... the Hopi ... horse kicking ... nature bats last ... weekly pick: Neil Stephenson, “Reamde” ... save you from Philip Jose Farmer ... it’s called bad writing ... a creepy looking guy ... weekly pick: text from Hillary ... ftw ... weekly pick: Felicia Day ... www.youtube.com—watch <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU> ... throwing rocks off the moral high road ... bonus pick: The Cabin in the Woods ... meta-horror-movie

Direct download: 239__Dont_Lifestraw_Me.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 12:26am EDT

Pre-game sniping ... we will skype you ... the rat will not be denied ... ten devices for five people ... time for contemplation ... NOW they’re off ... weekly pick: paddle boarding ... young fogies ... Mauritania with missiles ... beef in Vienna ... earl gray and sour cherries ... guest pick: the bird and the bee ... Bones ... teenager lone international travel ... Dulles rant ... weekly pick: kiva.com ... weekly pick: voice assist for ipad/iphone ... weekly pick: Cyprus Ranch school anti-bullying video "Who do you think you are" ... Felicia Day's I'm the one that's cool ... Portlandia's Is the Chicken Local? sketch ... One way glass restroom ... do dogs prefer people who wear pants that smell like dog? ... Napeoleon

Direct download: 238__Dog_Pants.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:50pm EDT

Mike's face ... every Apple device ... Apple's suppliers ... broken-leg burro ... Grand Theater ... fact-checker expose ... don't like Historical fiction ... Hornblower re-pick ... weekly pick: Napoleon, the Director's Cut ... Dumb and Dumber-esque ... all Wagner all the time ... it didn't anger me ... dessicated ... Tufte's semester class ... www.edwardtufte.com—posters <http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/posters> ... Benedict Cumberbatch ... as, The Master ... how to piss off a frog ... www.youtube.com—watch <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzXM58qR1Es&noredirect=1> ... knife/police shooting ... Fish Called Wanda ... weekly pick: rosemary and olive oil ice cream ... weekly pick: keep calm and carry on ... keep calm and omnom nom ... it sucks when you're your own headstone ... anti-pick: too-smoky peanuts ... thermostat for a smoker ... dappered.com ... weekly pick: Sense and Sensibility

Direct download: 237__Grand_Theater.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:04pm EDT

Hissing tunnel ... Early weekly pick: Downton Abbey ... bowing to gaplessness ... dirty old men ... Zite again ... Instapaper ... competitive blood donation ... shoveling standoff ... Pandemic ... Yahtzee ... John Woo movies ... Ordinary People? No ... Netflix making us miss Blockbuster ... Pinterest ... candy dragon www.youtube.com—watch <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukyDrkwvJXQ> ... sausage fest vs. Pinterest ... a keyboard in your pants www.happyplace.com—what-to-wear-when-the-most-erotic-relationship-in-your-life-is-with-your-computer <http://www.happyplace.com/14444/what-to-wear-when-the-most-erotic-relationship-in-your-life-is-with-your-computer> ... Nano watch and human laziness ... D&D without paper ... NerdApp ... diagramming sentences ... weekly pick: lunatik.com <http://lunatik.com/> ... weekly pick: self-inking inspector stamp www.crankypressman.com—inspector-stamps-portable-little-rubber-stamps.html <http://www.crankypressman.com/printery_bindery/inspector-stamps-portable-little-rubber-stamps.html> ... Order of the Stick ... Kickstarter

Direct download: 236__Diagram_THIS.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:06am EDT

Don't Cross the Streams: hydrate, hydrate, hydrate … urinate it away … some men just like to pee … better living through chemicals … waterboy … another Bear cocktail … beets warning label … stadium pal … do not cross the streams … that, would be bad … nerd caches …  the character he used to be … IKEA is still awesome … hex wrench, buh bye … couch crouch … magic Frisbees … grumpy lady … short and sassy/sweet … beats French laundry … memorable delicious delightful parties … geeking out with the servers … Tasting Menu at Coi … weekly pick: gilt.com … weekly pick: Limitless … weekly rant: Netflix selection not good … flowingdata.com—where-are-the-biggest-box-office-movies-streaming <http://flowingdata.com/2012/01/20/where-are-the-biggest-box-office-movies-streaming/> … build own digital antenna … addictive Amazon prime … weekly pick: Doctor Who … majority conservatives … weekly pick: Crazy Stupid Love … weekly pick: marmite burgers

Direct download: 235__Dont_Cross.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:54am EDT

video bad idea ... Joss Whedon ... Sherlock good ... rathole on hold ... Washington foul ... Set ... uncluttered minds ... pseudo weekly pick: Gattica ... Jude Law gets around ... ostracized Mel ... when to ostracize ... ostrich-cism ... bacon explosion ... pig pig pig ... carved pumpkin walk away ... hmm, east ... Jeni's salty caramel ice cream With Bacon ... use someone else's microwave ... gravy and toast riposte ... Rhett and Link ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23H8IdaS3tk ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TL9bUWr6I … http://www.viddler.com/v/71ddce22 ... weekly pick: Carcasonne ... map games, yeah ... 2nd in Spelling Bee ... Akeelah and the Bee ... the most legal work ... crying at Niner's loss ... weekly pick: http://blog.flurry.com/bid/81719/Super-Bowl-2012-Madonna-Curbs-Mobile-App-Usage ... superbowl spoiler ... Moneyball book ... favorite book ever:  Blink

Direct download: 234._Ostrich-cism.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:39pm EDT

start the call button ... getting old ... playing little yellow football ... $16 muffin ... AC/DC homage ... kept her motor clean ... not really ticated ... angry on the beat ... soccer deaths ... awry bread and circuses ... talk to the hourglass ... euphemism for knee surgery ... stuck on saw ... burn it with lye ... this is going to hurt, a lot ... flipping toenails ... BBC Sherlock ... Dent Arthur Dent ... weekly pick: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... Last Chance to See ... you die, that's what you do ... salt x4, pepper, and that's it ... furrfu ... weekly pick: fold.it ... crowdsourcing supercomputing pattern recognition ... Foldit Gamers FTW ... French the llama ... weekly pick: zite ... yay, free ... D&D birthday ... paizo in the 3.5 universe ... statues coming alive ... youth service ... Songs to Wear Pants to

Direct download: 233._Awry_Bread_and_Circuses.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:23am EDT

232. Opposite of transported

clipped ... Mostly Margaret ... Is Martha Stewart Living ... generic CNN story ... man walking on frickin' moon ... the President will stomp him ... Rachel Maddow show ... smart, liberal, biased ... VP candidates ... homosexuals, cohabitors, and fornicators ... Maddow vs. Dailey ... talent vs. ratholes ... robot chicken ... Archer – not safe for work ... anti-pick: War Horse ... mired ... Daniel Radcliff with horse puppets ... but lord it wasn’t good ... Connery - Zardoz ... weekly pick: dog/soldier reunions ... weekly pick: Girl Genius ... OOTS too sporadic ... 1024 ... I don't know anything about SOPA ... weekly pick: Onion's Atlas of the Planet Earth

Direct download: 232._Opposite_of_transported.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:55am EDT

Warp speed ... fresh out of virtues ... studio f'ing C ... dating 50+ women ... anti-jokes ... Ray Charles vs. Hitler ... pig newtons ... arguing against 13 year olds ... boarding school ... tinyurl.com/englishdavescotch ... y-chromosomal activity ... no "follow that car" ... weekly pick: lotsahelpinghands.com ... thanks for life-strawing the rest of us ... weekly pick:  George F. Kennan: An American Life by John Lewis Gaddis  ... overdue Kindle books ... weekly pick: girl with the dragon tattoo ... mature enough for children ... students who work 2 jobs in school must be amazing, or not ... weekly pick: zite ipad/iphone app ... picking subjects for the person you want to be ... collision of galaxies Hubble image ... explaining the world will end to a 3 year old

Direct download: 231__Asp_Queue.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 11:25am EDT

Dave a little bit louder? ... gravity test … 60 times bigger hard drive ... ChiangMai outrage ... Scott Pilgrim ... Mario Cart problem ... Kick Ass ... the miracle of film ... power supply problem ... island of Manhattan ... High Line ... art that makes no noise ... applauding painter ... kickball trophy ... erasing the google bomb ... Santorum surge ... searching their pockets ... unspoken bigotry ... sects? ... same hardware ... same part of your brain ... politicians since time immemorial ... Tom Hanks for President ... English Dave shoutout ... whiskey map ... tenement museum ... Weekly Pick: Dr. Who Timeline ... "it blows" vs "priceless"? ... Weekly Pick: Book: Settlers of Catan ... past picks ... near ground zero ... 173 children of the world ... Weekly Pick: "Doc" Mary Doria Russell ... cool wordles

Direct download: 230._Painting_with_Pompoms.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 1:40am EDT